From: utzoo!decvax!goutal Newsgroups: net.followup Title: weird Article-I.D.: decvax.461 Posted: Tue Apr 12 11:21:55 1983 Received: Wed Apr 13 02:59:51 1983 It suddenly occurs to me why all these "exceptions" exist -- When I was taught the rule as a kid, it *included* a specification of exceptions, to wit: 'I' before 'E' except after 'C' and when sounded as 'A' as in "neighbor" and "weigh" I suspect that not too long ago, most of the exceptions mentioned recently were indeed pronounced as "a" or something similar. With the advent of mass media, I think our pronunciations have been normalizing a *lot* in the last, say, fifty years. But what about "weird", you say; surely that wasn't pronounced "wared" or like "layered"? Au contraire, I believe it was. I can't remember where I saw it, but I seem to remember having seen an antique spelling, viz "weyrd", which certainly looks like it ought to rhyme with "layered", sort of. Of course, perhaps I saw it in the novel, and perhaps the author had long wondered about how "weird" came to be the exception to such great rule, and invented an etymology. Perhaps the net.nlang folks can help us? -- Kenn (decvax!goutal) P.S. Yes, I know, it doesn't explain "financier". Oh well.