From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!floyd!rjs Newsgroups: net.physics Title: A different ice question (summary of answers) Article-I.D.: floyd.1440 Posted: Fri Apr 15 11:15:46 1983 Received: Sat Apr 16 06:39:48 1983 I received a number of letters regarding my inquiry as to whether or not warm water freezes faster than cold water. Many of them refered to a Scientific American Amature Scientist article on the subject, so I looked back through my old issues and found it in the September 1977 issue. This was the special issue on microelectronics which may explain why so many people knew about it. This article does make the claim that hot water freezes faster than cold. It also says that the explaination is still the subject of controversy. The possible reasons offered are better circulation of hot water, hot water contains less dissolved gas, and that hot water loses a substantial amount of mass to evaporation, so you are actually freezing less water. The author then goes on to present the results of his experiments, which show a definite drop off in freezing time after a certain temperature which depends on the conditions (amount of water, size of container, type of freezer, covered or uncovered container). In any case, looking at his data, it still seems that cold tap water (usually < 20 deg. C.) than water that is warmer (but still water i.e. < 100 deg. C.). The turnover point on his data occurs in the 60-80 deg. C. range. My conclusion is that you are still better off using cold water as you don't have to pay to heat the water then cool off that heat. Also, you don't want to run the risk of getting rid of all the dissolved gasses or the ice won't float (just kidding). Thanks to all who answered. Robert Snyder floyd!rjs