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Title: The REAL Biblical Controversy
Article-I.D.: qubix.172
Posted: Mon Mar 21 00:52:46 1983
Received: Tue Mar 29 01:46:09 1983

To avoid network cluttering, more I suggest a moratorium while we
ponder I Corinthians 1:18-32 and the following:

Defenders: Conversion requires conviction, not convincing. The skeptics
will not be converted by the answers to their questions. As David
Hawley said in an earlier article, there is a more basic problem.

Skeptics: Who of you will be the historic first to say that the alleged
contradictions in the Bible are the only thing between you and Christ?

A group of skeptics once had all their Bible questions answered. One
asked them if they would surrender to Christ; they said "No." One asked
"Why?" They said "We don't want to." A matter of "Won't," not "Can't."

Before further skeptical questions, let the inquiring party use a
concordance and Hebrew/Greek lexicon to make sure a given English word
(such as "heard" or "voice") comes from the same word in the original
language in the questioned instances. (Avoids "version-vision")

For the extra-biblical evidence on Jesus (mikec):
Tacitus' Annals, Lucian's Passing Peregruis, Flavius Josephus (THE
historian of that era), Seutonius' Biographies, Pliny's Letters, ...

For J.D.Jensen on books referenced in Scripture: Being referenced in
Scripture is not a testimony of canonicity. Only Enoch is quoted, and
then only one verse. The unquoted parts are not guaranteed accurate.

Bill Pfeifer on the Genesis "day": Hebrew "yom" as in "Yom Kippur" (Day
of Atonement). Root word means "to be hot" - a very definite time! Ditto
"evening," root "to grow dusky," and "morning," always used for "early"

Regarding a religion which neither tolerates nor tries to convert:
every religion is BY ITS NATURE opposed to every other religion. Simple
logic: A says "A is the only way to God, and B is not." B says "A and B
are ways to God." B accepts A which denies B. Either A is wrong or B is
self-contradictory, and hence wrong. Either way, NOT(both are right).
This also applies to humanism and Unitarian-Universalism.

				Yours for cleaner netting,
				Larry Bickford
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