From: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!ucbcad:tektronix!tekecs!randals
Newsgroups: net.religion
Title: Re: The-week-in-review
Article-I.D.: tekecs.727
Posted: Tue Mar 29 09:06:54 1983
Received: Thu Mar 31 01:15:07 1983
References: qubix.181

To reply publicly to:
	Larry Bickford
	decvax!decwrl!qubix!lab
as stated in qubix.181 as follows:
~~~ begin quote ~~~
To clear up a logic case and reiterate a point:
Every religion is BY ITS NATURE opposed to every other religion
(which also implies the impossibility of Randal's request).

If one of the tenets of A is "B is wrong," and one of B's tenets is "A is
right," both cannot be true - a logical impossibility. To see:
	A => A & ~B
	B => A & B		(use implication of A)
	  => (A & ~B) & B	(use associativity of &)
	  => A & (~B & B)	(the latter is necessarily false)
	  => A & False		(anything & False is False)
	  => False
A False conclusion demands at least one False hypothesis
(and my philosophy instructor certainly wasn't a Christian).
~~~ end quote ~~~

Lots of neat logic.  I agree 100% with your logic.  I've studied boolean
algebra and logical derivations since I was a little tyke.  I already had
come to this conclusion a long time ago.

Now (and this may shock you), where's the lie?

This is not an answer to my question.  You've gotten off into left field
somewhere.  You've proved that if A says B is wrong, and B says A is
right, that there is a paradox, and thus, a false assumption.

I am not looking for an A and B that fit the above qualifications.

I look for an X (to use the original variable!), such that members
of X are not instructed to (by the paradigm of their religion)
either (a) put up with, tolerate, ignore, or cope with non-X's, or
(b) try to change the non-X's into being X's.

Note that the question doesn't say "all non-X's are right, anyway",
or anything to that effect.  It simply says that they are (this is a
hint) not wrong, and don't need to be resisted or fixed up.

Now, keep looking.  I've given away some of the essential details.

YOU CAN'T FIGURE THIS OUT LOGICALLY!!! YOUR LOGIC CAN NOT PROVE ANYTHING
NEW... IT CAN ONLY GIVE YOU *MORE* *OF* *THE* *SAME* *BULLSHxT*!!

Wake up!  There's a very amazing, simple answer to my question.  Those that
discover it will blow their minds.  The question is *so* simple that
you can't figure it out.  I'm asking a "who's buried in Grant's tomb?"
question.

Larry's statement:
	Every religion is BY ITS NATURE opposed to every other religion
	(which also implies the impossibility of Randal's request).
is simply his point of view.  It is the filter in which he views
life through.  That is the truth *for* *him*.  He is blinded to a
much larger view.  Remember, that statement is not *fact*, it is *opinion*.

Not afraid to wake people up a little,
Randal L. ("(null)") Schwartz
Tektronix Engineering Computing Systems (the UNIX folks)
Wilsonville, Oregon, USA

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