From: utzoo!watmath!djhawley Newsgroups: net.religion Title: Re: Morality simplified [somewhat serious] Article-I.D.: watmath.4839 Posted: Tue Apr 5 11:24:16 1983 Received: Tue Apr 5 23:40:27 1983 References: sdccsu3.457 One of the big problems I can see with defining 'good' and 'evil' in terms of what benefits/harms a sentient being in its "final opinion" is the meaning of "final opinion". If this means judgment over the passage of a lifetime, then morality cannot judge behaviour until way too late to affect the behaviour. This is also a variety of the same problem that afflicts pragmatism -- the effects of an action should really be taken in the looooooooooong view. Secondly, this is a very simplistic view of morality. What about morality in relation to others ( ex. Hobbesian selfishness vs enlightened self-interest ) ? Moral philosophers have struggled with this question for a long time. What about altruism, and the instinct to benevolence which ( perhaps infrequently ) we observe. If this neither helps nor harms us, it is thus amoral ! ----------------------------- Yours for a more courageous morality David Hawley