From: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!arens@UCBKIM Newsgroups: net.religion Title: Re: reasoning Article-I.D.: ucbvax.217 Posted: Wed Apr 6 01:09:20 1983 Received: Thu Apr 7 01:17:57 1983 From: arens@UCBKIM (Yigal Arens) Received: from UCBKIM.ARPA by UCBVAX.ARPA (3.332/3.20) id AA10348; 6 Apr 83 01:07:09 PST (Wed) To: net-religion@BERKELEY watmath!rtris and pur-ee!ecn-pa:scott should argue among themselves about whether things are the way their god(s?) want(s) them to be or not. That should be fun. I like the way these fellows decide whether something is their god's desire according to what is most convenient at the moment, or what they believe in anyway. So what else is new? Haven't you noticed that religious people of all the various kind always seem to believe that their god tells them to do what they chose to do anyway? I do not believe, for instance, that God INTENDED the world to be this way. But now that man has messed things up, God is working his purposes through that, at great cost to himself. (Says watmath!rtris) Pretty weak god, eh? Anyway, my point is valid even so. Who's to guarantee that man won't mess up in the next world? Many pure souls will be languishing in hell while god is working to make things right again. Wanna guess how long that might be? He does have all eternity to do it, so there's no need to hurry. Boy, will they be disappointed. Yigal Arens UC Berkeley