From: utzoo!decvax!duke!unc!tim Newsgroups: net.religion Title: There are no absolutes Article-I.D.: unc.4952 Posted: Mon Apr 11 12:37:11 1983 Received: Tue Apr 12 02:19:09 1983 A recent article mentioned that the poster believed that the laws of logic were absolutes, and that there were likewise moral absolutes (murder is wrong, etc.) In fact, the "laws of logic" are *not* absolutes: they are arbitrary rules of productions which we find useful in establishing mathematics. It's all well and good to say "true and true is true", but it is equally easy to define a logic in which "true and true is false" or "true and true is green wombats from outer space". The laws we usually use are those which are useful to us because it is easy to see a match between them and real-world phenomena, but this matching is ill-defined and subjective. There is nothing absolute about logic, and nothing absolute about morality. Both depend on subjective decisions as to the validity of the logical or moral system. Tim P.S. No takers on my "made in the image" challenge? I'm disappointed.