From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!ariel!houti!hogpc!houxm!ihnp4!ixn5c!inuxc!inuxa!claus Newsgroups: net.religion Title: Re: Re: Foreknowledge => Determinism, no - (nf) Article-I.D.: inuxa.197 Posted: Fri Apr 15 08:53:43 1983 Received: Mon Apr 18 23:02:30 1983 References: ihlpf.131 I enjoy these discussions about determinism and free will very much. One thing they always make me think of is something I refer to as a random event. What if I map out possible actions and determine which action I take based on what most people agree to be random events(rolling of die, flipping of coins,random number generator on a computer,etc.). Will 'God' know what the final outcome of any sequence of random events are? Is there really any such thing as random events? To give an example of what I mean suppose I leave my office and star walking. The first person I meet I ask for a number between 1 and 12, the second person for a number between 1 and 28, and the third person for a number between 1 and 24. The fourth person I ask for a city in the US. I have previously decided that I am going to drive to that city at the time(3rd person) on the day(2nd person) of the month(1st person). Now I repeat the question- does 'God' know what will happen before I leave my office? If he does I don't see where I had any choice in the matter. If nothing is random(everything is predictable) then life is nothing more than a giant computer program being run on a giant computer. It has no meaning since the end result is already known. I would like to know what other people think about 'random events'. Dave Claus ABI/Indy P.S. By the way I'm going to flip a coin to decide whether or not to send this article.