From: utzoo!decvax!duke!unc!tim Newsgroups: net.religion Title: Re: Free will and predestination make no sense Article-I.D.: unc.4997 Posted: Sat Apr 16 15:41:52 1983 Received: Tue Apr 19 00:09:19 1983 References: ihuxk.300 The real issue is not of free will vs. determinism, but of responsibility. If God created us knowing what we would do, and could have changed any or all of it freely, then It, not we, are responsible for all our actions. Thus, we shouldn't be judged for them by It. It is the one who "really" did them. It should go straight to Hell, not we poor preordained sinners. Here's a new issue on this topic. Since God could make the universe any way It wanted to, why did It make the universe one that would require intervention? The only reason I can think of is that It wanted some entertainment... Tim Maroney