From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhtsa!alice!npoiv!npois!hou5f!ariel!houti!hogpc!houxm!5941ux!dje Newsgroups: net.religion Title: Re: Free will and predestination make no sense Article-I.D.: 5941ux.246 Posted: Tue Apr 19 11:08:24 1983 Received: Wed Apr 20 02:50:52 1983 References: unc.4997 Tim Maroney writes that if God created us knowing what we would do, then God, not we, are responsible for all our actions. Philosophically, I disagree. If we have free will (which I believe we do, since our choices are made on a basis independent from what God knows will happen), then we retain responsibility. (Is a philosophy in which we are responsible for our actions preferable to a philosophy in which we are not responsible?) Tim also raises an interesting point on God's INTERVENTION in the universe. Couldn't we say that is is possible to view any event over which we have no control as being God's "intervention" into our lives? (My personal belief in God includes the inaccessibility of God's motives to human scrutiny, so I can't even guess at why God intervenes, if we view God's actions as intervention). Dave Ellis / Bell Labs, Piscataway NJ ...!harpo!npoiv!npois!houxm!5941ux!dje ...!{lime,ariel}!houti!hogpc!houxm!5941ux!dje