From: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!flairvax!ellis
Newsgroups: net.religion
Title: Re: Zen--reading and practice
Article-I.D.: flairvax.114
Posted: Tue Apr 19 14:03:45 1983
Received: Wed Apr 20 03:16:33 1983
References: pegasus.323

    As a person with essentially no Zen credentials or training, I was
    confused by pegasus!pete's remark:

"Zen is, above all else, the physical and mental activity of sitting
 zen meditation (zazen)."

    This seems somehow in contradiction to other views on the subject:

"to concentrate the mind on quietness is a disease of the mind, and not
 Zen at all"
							- Eno
"how can you become a buddha by doing zazen?"
							- Nangaku

    It seems that a few of the most revered Zen masters felt a profound
    aversion to meditation (zazen).