From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!ariel!lime!houxg!hogpc!houti!pegasus!pete Newsgroups: net.religion Title: Re: Ritual and Polytheism Article-I.D.: pegasus.329 Posted: Wed Apr 20 13:57:34 1983 Received: Fri Apr 22 05:55:05 1983 A comment on Tim Maroney's mesage on ritual and consciousnes change. I agree that ritual can change consciousnes radically. (What are sex, love and yogas, and perhaps even drugs but rituals) Ritual can also serve to stultify ones consciousness also. A ritual repeated without thought and attention can become a negative meditation that leaves the mind numbed and caught in a tight little loop. A trivial example-- if one rotates ones thumb against the tip of the middle finger in a counterclockwise direction, pressing softly and moving slowly for about fifteen minutes, one will enter a very odd and unpleasent state. A friend, who is a professional psychologist, has observed a number of patients in various mental hospitals performing this "meditation" continuously for hours. (In fact she had some success in treating them by helping to break this one habit). Here is an action which changes consciousness and then leaves the practitioner trapped in a little loop. My objection to many religious groups (both Christian and other) is that the purpose of their activities is to AVOID a change in consciousness. (After one initial change, so that the person accepts the religion). Rituals that empowered the believer, created doubt (a most necessary ingredient in any conciousness change), and left the world seeming more complicated than before the ritual started are avoided. For these groups religion, provides ANSWERS. For me a religion must provide methods of exploration (Religion being one of the many possible tools that aid in my task). Any advice about how to develop, find, or experience positive rituals will be gladly accepted. Any flames or discussions about these topics are eagerly awaited. A Searching Judeo/Budeo/Pagan looking for more slashes to add to list Peter Silverman pegasus!pete