From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!ariel!lime!houxg!hogpc!houti!pegasus!pete Newsgroups: net.religion Title: Re: Zen--reading and practice Article-I.D.: pegasus.328 Posted: Wed Apr 20 11:09:31 1983 Received: Fri Apr 22 20:30:34 1983 References: pegasus.323 flairvax.114 Yes, some of the Zen masters had an aversion to Zazen, after they had used it as tool. My point is that Zen is a practice, and that discusions about Zen or reading of Zen masters often can miss the point. Zen masters are famed for their pardoxical methods of arguement, the same master who disparages Zazen may in another writing praise its virtues. If to practice Zen is to learn to avoid attachements, then an attachment to Zazen, which is a tool, can leave a student stuck in the same bind as before. However no Zen master that I know of recommends talking or reading too much about Zen as part of the practice.