From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhuxt!mhuxa!houxm!ihnp4!ixn5c!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!donchin Newsgroups: net.suicide Title: Re: Continuing a lengthy flame - (nf) Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.1902 Posted: Wed Apr 20 04:34:14 1983 Received: Fri Apr 22 07:00:50 1983 #R:mit-eddi:-10900:uiucdcs:22100007:000:1006 uiucdcs!donchin Apr 18 20:33:00 1983 I'm not sure I agree. I've been in this situation you described. My friend was, similarly, moving on towards 18, and I kept her alive until she no longer needed me, again by the methods you describe. Yet, you say that the important thing is to drive home that you care about the persons life. That you want them to live. This may be a mistake. For a while, my friend was bound by a promise that she made to a friend. She promised her friend that, for the sake of the friend, she would stay alive. The friend had told her: "If you kill yourself, you will hurt me more than you can imagine." And, although it did keep her alive, it ruined completely her friendship. People should not stay alive out of a feeling of guilt, its not worth it. If a person is really suffering a nagging urge to be done with, then so be it. You can only do your best to make sure that this is clearly what the person wants. Human life should not be held in such high esteem that the human character is sacrificed to it.