From: utzoo!decvax!yale-com!leichter Newsgroups: net.followup Title: Re: Jewish experience of the Holocaust Article-I.D.: yale-com.1444 Posted: Sun May 1 10:44:19 1983 Received: Mon May 2 05:19:05 1983 References: arizona.2026 I am sorry to disappoint arizona:jim in his pursuit of the evil in men's hearts, but the Holocaust WAS different, both qualitatively and quantitatively. As a Jew, both of whose parents survived the Nazis, I cannot stand by quietly and let the memories be cheapened by ill-informed references to "holocausts" right and left - not to mention innuendo against Israelis and, indirectly, Jews who support Israel. (WHO did the killing at Savra and Chattella [sic]? Hint: NOT Israelis.) The Holocaust was a unique, or close to unique, histo- rical experience, and the unique portion was almost exclusively the experience of Jews. I, for one,ave too little data to comment on the Turkish slaughter of the Armenians; but how DARE you compare the systematic killing of MILLIONS of Jews, of all ages, with the horrible - but perfectly "historical" - murder of POLITICAL OPPONENTS - real or perceived - in Chile? It requires an amazing lack of perceptive ability to fail to see the distinctions - or a sad lack of basic data. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that it is the latter. To get some data, please read "Appropriating the Holocaust" by Henryk Grynberg, in the November 1982 issue of Commentary. Here is a short extract that will give you some idea of what you don't know: "One factor obscuring the truth about the Holocaust is the confusion in termi- nology which has bedeviled this subject from the beginning. An example of such confusion is the continual use of the term "concentration camps" in con- ection with the Holocaust, as though the two were synonomous. Since the con- centration camps did in fact contain inmates of many different religions and nationalities, it is only logical to conclude, as many have, that the Jewish case was only a more extreme instance of a catastrophe which befell many other nationalities and religions as well. The truth is, however, that the largest part of Europe's Jews perished not in concentration camps but in extermination camps, and German terminology - with its distinction between @i(Konzentrationslagern) and @i(Vernichtungs-) or @i(Sonderslagern) - is very clear on this point. Those Jews who did not die in the death camps died either in the closed ghettos, where the were systema- tically started (Warsaw, Cracow, Lodz) or else in mass executions carried out in places like Babi Yar, Ponary, Dubno, and other points in the German-occu- pied Soviet territories. What the murder installations have in common is that they wer designated exclusively for Jews. To clarify the distinction once and for all, Treblinka (where 750,000 people perished), Belzec (600,000), Chelmno (360,000), and Sobibor (250,000) were strictly extermination camps, while Maidanek, with 200,000 victims, was bot a concentration camp and an extermination camp. The same is true of Auschwitz, the most infamous of all. What the visitor who enters Auschwitz through the gate bearing the inscription @i("Arbeit macht frei") ["work will make you free" -- Jerry] sees is Auschwitz I, the concentration camp, which housed 405,000 registered and numbered prisoners of different nationalities, including Jews; 340,000 of those inmates died here. But about a mile and half away is another camp - Auschwitz II, also know as Birknau (in German) an Brzezinka (in Polish). This was the extermination camp of Aucshwitz, where about 3,500,000 people were gassed. According to the testimony of Rudolf Hoess at the Nuremberg trials, except for about 20,000 Russiona prisoners of war, people gassed during his term as commandant of Auschwitz were "Jews from Holland, Belgium, France, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Greece, and other countries." They were never regis- tered or numbered, and in a sense never became real prisoners. They were taken to the gas chambers almost straight from the train, following a quick selection process which separated out the younger and healthier adults and the taller teen-agers. These were directed to the concentration-camp work force, where they had the chance, if not ultimately to survive, then at least to live a while longer. The extermination camps, unlike the concentration camps, were never "liberated"- the liberators came too late. While there are thousands of survivors of the concentration camps, many of whom have written accounts of their experiences, the extermination camps left virtually no survivors, and almost nothing in the way of eyewitness testimony. I myself, for example, am technically a kind of "survivor" of the death camp Treblinka, but that is only because my parents managed to run away with me before we were loaded onto a train - the rest of my family was murdered. Under these circumstances, it is all too easy to speak only of the concentration camps, and let the mute death camps fade into oblivion." I ended up quoting more than I had intended to, but even so I barely touched the surface. The article goes on just after this section to show that the "concentration camp" had, unfortunately, a long history - the Russians had refined those techniques. The death camp, however, was a Nazi invention... PLEASE, read the article before you consider yourself competent to comment - or even have an informed opinion on - the uniqueness or lack thereof of the Holocaust. It's too important an issue to leave to ill-informed ramblings by those who have no understanding of the facts. -- Jerry decvax!yale-comix!leichter leichter@yale