From: utzoo!decvax!duke!mcnc!unc!ge Newsgroups: net.nlang,net.women Title: Syntactic Sugar Article-I.D.: unc.5080 Posted: Wed Apr 27 10:22:24 1983 Received: Thu Apr 28 02:53:31 1983 Both Saumya Debray (sbcs!debray) and A.T. (the Extra-Linguistical) seem to agree that ...sexism is not in the language, which is but a vehicle to communicate one's thoughts with (sic). Sexism is in the minds of people. If we want to root out sexism, we should go and try to change those thoughts, those attitudes, rather than try to castrate the language. Let assume for the moment that sexism is not in the language. Let us instead merely accept the fact that many women (and many men as well) BELIEVE that sexism is in the language. Moreover, let us accept the fact that these women and men have clearly stated that they are offended by certain ways of referring to females (and sometimes males) and by the use of certain "generic" nouns and pronouns. If the above assumptions are correct, then it is irrelevant whether sexism is in the language or not. Like it or not, your use of the language is political. It cannot help showing respect or disrespect for the views of many women and men. Let me take as a small example my co-recreational volleyball team. When we first began playing together three years ago, our coach referred to the female players as "girls." They protested that they wanted to be called "women." It doesn't matter if they are too young to be called "women." It doesn't matter if the A.T.'s in the world call such niceties "syntactic sugar." What matters is what those women wish to be called. Another example. The respectful words used to refer to Afro-Americans have changed several times during this century. The words comprising the name "NAACP" show that the word "Colored" was recently a respectful term. Later, this word was replaced by "Negro," which in turn was replaced by "Black" in the speech of many Americans. Does it matter that the term "Black" might be "syntactic sugar" because many Blacks are not black? Does it matter that "Negro" might be somehow more accurate anthropologically? It does not: if you do not use words such as "Black" or "Afro-American," you are making a negative political statement whether you wish to or not. Debray claims to "...have some feeling for the English language." ALL that he has a (conscious) feeling for is syntax. People who truely understand their language know more than syntax and good style. They also understand such things as its tones, its dialects and its political uses. -George Entenman ge@unc P.S. My coach now says "women" when referring to all of the women on the team, but he uses "girl" when saying such things as "We need a girl to set the ball." No one complains.