From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhtsa!alice!rabbit!jj Newsgroups: net.physics Title: Re: End of universe? Article-I.D.: rabbit.1362 Posted: Fri Apr 22 14:26:25 1983 Received: Mon Apr 25 03:02:42 1983 References: <1023@sri-arpa.UUCP> I have a few simple thoughts (and keep your puns to yourself) about the "problem" of creating energetic particles. 1) How does the highest energy particle that we can/will produce compare with the most highly excited particles that come from Supernova, black hole accretion cloud radiation, and other similar natural processes. (I'm not claiming anything, I'm just asking for a comparision of the man made processes and the more powerful natural ones.) 2) What would be the effect of a black hole, with its surrounding discontinuities, etc, on the "false vacuum"? 3) What about Seyfert Galaxies, Quasars, etc?? I'm not all that knowlegable about the various processes I've named, but a comparison between the natural and man made energies would be interesting. A related question is: Are cosmic rays the most energetic natural particles known, including those from catastrophic sources??? I must admit that the false vacuum idea seems to give a bit too much credit to the abilities of mankind...