From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!KFL@MIT-MC Newsgroups: net.physics Title: Re: Speed of light Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.1356 Posted: Wed May 11 20:45:00 1983 Received: Thu May 19 02:15:28 1983 From: Keith F. Lynch From: Doug Gwyn (VLD/VMB) ... the generalization of Euclidean distance after this "free-fall" transformation to an "inertial frame" would be: ds^2 = (f dx)^2 + (e dy)^2 + (d dz)^2 - (c dt)^2 , where (x,y,z,t) are local Cartesian 3-space coordinates and the time coordinate measured in arbitrary units. People (not just theoretical physicists) are clever enough to use compatible units of distance for the three 3-space axis directions, so f = e = d by usual convention. In fact, theoreticians usually choose compatible units for time, so f = e = d = c by theoretical physics convention. You are saying that asking "what happens if c is changed" makes as much sense as asking what happens if the ratio between vertical distance and horizontal distance was changed? In this case, "ds" units are normal taken to be compatible also, so f = e = d = c = 1 is the usual theoretical physics choice. In the case f = e = d = 1 which assigns ds units compatible with distance, the speed of light is exactly c. The theoreticians therefore have chosen units such that the speed of light is precisely 1. Ah yes. If you let c (the speed of light), h-bar (Plank's constant), and G (the gravitational constant) all equal 1, you have a perfectly consistent and well defined system of units in which there are natural units of time, distance, mass, etc. One problem with doing it this way (other than the practical problem that the value of G is not known to very many places) is that it tempts people to assign all units a dimensionality of unity, which greatly impairs one's ability to debug physics equations. The reasons distance and time are hard to consider as "the same type of thing" lie in the opposite sign for the time coordinate in the diagonalized metric. Of course you are assuming that general relativity is the last word. General relativity is built on special relativity, and special relativity begins by assuming some of the things it is often used to 'prove'! The only reason not to throw it out is that it manages to predict the results of many experiments with pretty good accuracy. There are almost certainly some very serious bugs in relativity, as was demonstrated in Bell's theorem, which shows that general (and special!) relitivity as it is generally understood is incompatible with quantum mechanics as it is generally understood. The most natural generalization of general relativity, that is, the one making the fewest physical assumptions, leads directly to a cosmology with a natural distance unit. Anyone who is really curious about this can drop me a note and I'll send out a copy of my thesis. Yes, I would like a copy please. ...Keith