From: utzoo!dciem!mmt Newsgroups: net.politics Title: Re: Good grief and a joke on socialists Article-I.D.: dciem.223 Posted: Mon Apr 25 11:11:50 1983 Received: Mon Apr 25 11:38:55 1983 References: houti.255 Tom Craver's repeated philosophy can be simplistically boiled down to "Do unto others before they do unto you" as opposed to what he claims is the socialist "Let's all help each other" (I know, Tom, you wouldn't paraphrase yourself this way, but that's how it sounds from here). I suggest Tom and anyone reading his notes should also read Hofstadter's article in the current Scientific American, on the Prisoner's Dilemma. It shows clearly that cooperation and what Tom calls "sacrifice" on behalf of others is on average beneficial to the sacrificer. In other words, as I have mentioned to Tom privately and to the net in general, ones own self-interest has to be seen in a rather deeper way than might be thought on the basis of "get what you can and let the devil take the hindmost". When everyone prospers, the richest are better off than when most are impoverished. Martin Taylor