From: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!sun!megatest!fortune!hpda!hplabs!hao!cires!harkins Newsgroups: net.religion Title: zen Article-I.D.: cires.2046 Posted: Tue Apr 19 15:24:39 1983 Received: Fri Apr 29 09:15:41 1983 first, recall that zen is only one sect of buddhism, which, somewhat like christianity ('a prophet has no honor in his own country' more or less), really fluorished outside india; other sects (from memory here) include Hinayana and Mahayana, both in the Burma Cambodia area and still going strong; zen though, and you can check in Britannica for this, took off as a sort of reborn confucianism in japan. My personal favorite is Alan Watts, but also appreciate Suzuki. My reading of what is zen is something along the lines of 'doing,' ie, living a religious life, but not worrying too much about form and rules, as long as it all fits into a concept (Eightfold path) of 'rightness.' All the blather on the net would be regarded, i think, as noise instead of signal; the essence is 'just sitting,' ie, getting rid of the noise and letting the signal (wisdom) flood your being. BTW, Alan Watts (not at itt; dead in fact) has a really funny essay about the need to kill to eat called "Murder in the Kitchen," in which (sorry, don't recall which book, but there are several worth reading) he goes into the 'fact' that plants feel pain, and therefore, even the most righteous vegetarians are killers too!! You might also reread Jack Kerouac: On the Road and Dharma Bums, as he seems to get the zen flavor down. ernie harkins