From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!woods Newsgroups: net.singles Title: Re: starting a relationship with someone who is already in one Article-I.D.: hao.480 Posted: Thu Apr 28 15:04:01 1983 Received: Fri Apr 29 20:39:18 1983 References: floyd.1476 In principle, I agree with Andy Tannenbaum that it is a pretty low-down thing to do to push your way into another relationship. However, there is another side to this coin. You could say, "If she was stealable (forgive me!) then the relationship couldn't have been that strong to begin with". Another factor is that in many high-tech, male-dominated social scenes, 95+% of the potential POSSLQ's a guy can meet are already involved, to varying degrees, with someone else. Therefore, I don't draw the line at "Under no circumstances would I make advances on a woman who already has a boyfriend". These things have to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. Factors which might make me consider violating my underlying principles are: 1) Extreme need on my part. The longer it's been since I've had a girl- friend, love or sex, the more likely I am to chase after a "taken" lady. 2) What I call the "asshole" factor. If I really feel in my heart that a guy is mistreating or otherwise doesn't deserve the lady he has, the more likely I am to try and convince her of this. I freely admit that it is often hard to tell whether this feeling is real, or just a rationalization for case 1) above. 3) The degree of involvement she has with the other guy. Obviously, it's a lot easier to "steal" a lady from a guy she just dates sometimes than from a husband. However, I wouldn't rule out married ladies necessarily, but probably would rule her out unless her marriage was not happy for her. 4) The degree of her apparent interest (or lack of same) in me. The biggest turn-on in the world for me is a lady who shows interest in me without my having to "harass" her, and I am not likely to pester a lady who does nothing to encourage me. In general, of course, I'd much rather not get involved in these situations, but if abstinence is the only other alternative or it's a lady I feel strongly enough about, I might try. In these cases, however, my approach would have to be much more laid back. That way, if I'm rebuffed I might be able to pretend it was just a joke. GREG {ucbvax!hplabs | allegra!nbires | decvax!brl-bmd | harpo!seismo | menlo70} !hao!woods P.S. I think this is the most interesting topic to come up in this group for some time. I'm curious to read what other people have to say about it.