From: utzoo!watmath!watarts!geo Newsgroups: net.singles Title: Aggressive/forthright women: I first meet one Article-I.D.: watarts.1832 Posted: Sun May 15 02:49:35 1983 Received: Sun May 15 04:38:24 1983 References: rlgvax.379 hao.490 There have been a number of articles recently about women asking men for dates. Many of these articles have been complaints from men complaining about the dearth of aggressive and/or forthright women. I used to complain about the dearth of aggressive, forthright women too, until I actually met one. It scared the sh*t out of me! My anecdote follows. I was a teen-ager, I was at a wine and cheese party following a conference for which a hero of mine and myself had been organizers. I went up to join the conversation my hero was having with an attractive woman, of about his age (early 30s). Well the three of us were having a fine, wide-ranging conversation. Somehow we started talking about renting a van, and the three of us, and their children (they were both divorced) travelling that summer. I wasn't sure I wanted to travel with them, there were some aspects I felt awkward about. Namely, who was planning to sleep with whom. But so far the talk had been pretty vague, so I felt OK. Well my hero was rather aggressive and forthright himself. All of a sudden I heard him baldly suggest that the three of us retire to his place for a sexy adventure. Well, I didn't leave right away, as he was my hero, and I didn't want to appear unsophisticated in his eyes. I must have waited at least two minutes before I made my adieux. When I get flustered, or upset, I react by acting very formally. The more upset I am the more formal I become. I gave the woman a little bow. I extended my hand. I smiled at her as I shook her hand and explained that it had been a real pleasure meeting her, but that unfortunately I had just remembered that I urgently needed to be somewhere else. If you had been watching me, you would have seen my smile melt and drain away when I finished speaking, and realized, SHE WAS STILL HOLDING ON TO MY HAND, AND SHE WASN'T GOING TO LET GO! Finally, after she saw me roll my eyes in pure terror, she relented and let go. With a laugh she apologized, and explained that after her divorce she had decided to explore what it felt like to be aggressive, to go for what she wanted without waiting to be asked. Well more power to her. I honour her courage. It was very sobering to experience this reversal of the conventional roles. In one of the previous articles I read tonight, the author said, "Males have far stronger sex drives than females". I don't agree at all. Rather I would say that it is culturally acceptable, indeed expected, that males will take the lead in sexual encounters. As I read the complaints in those other articles, I thought I sensed an air of bravado from some of the complainants. I couldn't help wondering how they would react if they actually met a really aggressive woman.