From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!eagle!karn Newsgroups: net.space Title: Re: RE: Pioneer 10 Transmissions Article-I.D.: eagle.921 Posted: Thu Apr 28 00:26:05 1983 Received: Thu Apr 28 19:23:08 1983 References: <1575@ihldt.UUCP> alice.1781 I just did some calculations on Pioneer's likely maximum range. I had to make some educated guesses on numbers, so my conclusions may be somewhat off; if anyone has the correct figures, let me know and I'll update my calculations. Receiving station assumptions: 200' dish, 50% illumination efficiency (half the intercepted energy is lost) 8 GHz operating frequency; wavelength = 3.75 cm 50 degree Kelvin receiving system temperature T (good, but probably worse than the real figure) 100 Hz receiver bandwidth B (assuming a pretty slow data rate) A 10 db signal-to-noise ratio is required (probably too high) Such a dish would have a gain of +71 dbi (decibels above an isotropic or "point source" antenna). The receiver would have a noise floor of KTB = 1.38E-23 * 50 * 100 = 6.9E-20 watts, or -191.6 dbW. (K = Boltzmann's constant) Pioneer 10 assumptions: 8 watt transmitter output = +9 dbW 5' dish with 50% illumination efficiency == +39 dbi gain EIRP (effective isotropic radiated power) = +9 + 39 = +48 dbW Maximum allowable path loss X would therefore be +48 dbW - X + 71 >= -191.6dbW + 10; X <= 300.6 db The path loss in db is given by 22 + 20*log(distance in wavelengths) Solving for distance, we get 7.9E13 wavelengths, about 3E12 meters or 10,000 light-seconds. Pluto's orbital semi-major axis is about 5.9E12 m, so I'm at least in the right order of magnitude. Keeping everything else constant, the signal-to-noise ratio decreases by 6 db for each doubling of the distance, i.e., going to 6E12 meters would decrease the signal-to-noise ratio to 4 db. In any case, I'm sure that they don't have a lot of signal to spare, and that contact couldn't be kept with such a system very far outside the solar system even if the isotope generator were to last indefinitely. On the other hand, if you were to use the Arecibo dish... Phil