From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhtsa!alice!rabbit!jj Newsgroups: net.women Title: Re: "man" and non-sexist writing - (nf) Article-I.D.: rabbit.1399 Posted: Mon May 2 12:15:36 1983 Received: Thu May 5 08:37:37 1983 References: <1970@uiucdcs.UUCP>, <1387@rabbit.UUCP> Well, from the mail I've received about my article, several things are apparent: The first is that my "error" about wombat's sex seems to be more important to most of those who wrote than the subject of the article, which is a very revealing phenomina. I ask: Why does wombat's sex MATTER? I am well aware by now (thanks to all your sarcastic cards and letters) that wombat is a she. SO WHAT? At least until some consensus regarding language is reached, "he" is the "proper" usage for someone whose sex I am unaware of. Also: Why should I care (other than for politeness sake, which I can tell, dear readers, you don't give a damn about) which sex wombat's is? Do you think I should argue any differently because she is a "she"? WELL? Do you??? Second, I thank all of you for your comments about my spelling. TOUGH. Why don't you just admit that you want to divert the argument to something that you feel comfortable with? Third: With the exception of two letters, no one even addressed the idea of education as a basis of prevention of discrimination. I am quite distressed that, while the effects and problems brought about by discrimination are constantly discussed, the idea of long term solution is either strongly resisted or (in this case) ignored. No one has yet addressed the question of how to cope with the debasement of the "new" vocabulary due to ignorance. Frankly, I fear the more subtle discrimination of saying "firefighter" and meaning "fireman" more than I fear the much more obvious way of saying "fireman" and meaning "man who fights fires" rather than "person who fights fires". (I feel that the first actually has the possibility of being used deceptively, being a learned behavior.) While the language may be sexist, (and may have recently, in historical terms, become that way) the language is not, and can clearly be seen not to be, the CAUSE of sexist (or racist, etc) attitudes. The language is clearly the symptom, brought about by teaching people sexist attitudes. If one wants the language to be non-sexist, I suggest educating the populace to be non-sexist, and the language will either change, or come to be understood as non-sexist. Treating symptoms, as our currently disintegrating society (welfare, social security, racial violence, crime, affirmitive action, lawsuits that extend liability, lack of responsibility for one's actions, skewed penalties for crimes ) shows, is counterproductive. Why not instead try a new approach? I don't know. Can someone write a nice, carefully though out article for this group explaining why or why not? Thank you (in advance, by necessity, there being no precedent) for all your kind support and thoughtful comments. rabbit!jj