From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!Carter@RUTGERS Newsgroups: net.works Title: thumbpads vs. mice Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.1069 Posted: Sat Apr 23 19:50:00 1983 Received: Wed Apr 27 07:17:29 1983 From: _Bob From: harpo!floyd!cmcl2!philabs!sdcsvax!sdchema!jmcg at Ucb-Vax Re: thumbpads vs. mice Jim McGinness sdcsvax!jmcg (619)452-4016 UC San Diego, Chemistry or decvax!jmcg * Will the future remember Bill Joy as the inventor of the Joystick? Hi Jim, Would you be kind enough to supply a pointer to documentation for your observation? I had thought that the word 'joystick' (to mean a small gimbaled stick, often connected to two or more potentiometers, and used for computer games and other applications) had a different origin. Such devices have been used for radio-control of remotely piloted model aircraft since the 1950's, and 'joy-stick,' to mean the control column of a full-scale aircraft, appears as early as 1916. It was most probably originally a mildly dirty joke. Unless you were also joking (and I am being dense about it), your remark suggests that there is a Bill Joy, and that he used 'joystick' as a trademark. What product did Bill Joy manufacture? Is he still in business? Do you happen to recall where you first saw this use of the word? Thanks, _Bob