From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!Mishkin@YALE.ARPA Newsgroups: net.works Title: Re: Apollo Software Blues Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.1287 Posted: Fri May 6 06:01:57 1983 Received: Tue May 17 19:52:56 1983 From: Nathaniel Mishkin From: harpo!floyd!cmcl2!philabs!sdcsvax!noscvax!jim @ Ucb-Vax Subject: Apollo software blues Many software vendors take "full" advantage of this PID check by selling an individual copy of their software for each workstation. As long as the workstation is used as a stand alone computer this marketing policy works. But, when one considers a large network of workstations served by a common file server, the whole picture changes... Assuming you have only one or two copies of some vendor's software to be shared by a number of people, what do you Apollo users of the software do about this? Should I forget Apollo and buy SUNs instead? This sure is a problem. However unless you're assuming that SUN 3rd party vendors are going to be inherently more generous than Apollo 3rd party vendors, I'm not sure why the problem should be a factor in a Apollo vs. SUN purchase decision. The 3rd party world is in a state of flux. Their "per-CPU" pricing policy is not quite right for the new distributed world. Given that (for all the reasons you cite) people are not going to be too keen on being forced to use a particular workstation in order to run some program, I suspect that if a vendor doesn't come up with a creative solution to the problem, he may find a dearth of buyers. I believe Apollo is working on system support for 3rd part vendors to allow more flexible usage control. I don't know what can be done to make things absolutely secure (from the vendor's position). I suppose the point is just to raise the level of difficulty to subvert "unauthorized" usage high enough to make tampering not worth the effort. -- Nat -------