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Subject: Re: LISP & SUNs ...
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Date: Sat, 6-Aug-83 16:39:13 EDT
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From:  Bill Nowicki <NOWICKI@SU-SCORE.ARPA>

         [Reprinted from the Info-Graphics discussion list.]

You can certainly run Franz under Unix from SMI, but it is SLOW.  Most
Lisps are still memory hogs, so as was pointed out, you need a
$100,000 Lisp machine to get decent response.

If $100,000 is too much for you to spend on each programmer, you might
want to look at what we are doing on the fourth floor here at
Stanford.  We are running a small real-time kernel in a cheap, quiet,
diskless SUN, which talks over the network to various servers.  Bill
Yeager of Sumex has written a package which runs under interLisp and
talks to our Virtual Graphics Terminal Service.  InterLisp can be run
on VAX/Unix or VAX/VMS systems, TOPS-20, or Xerox D machines.  The
cost/performance ratio is very good, since each workstation only needs
256K of memory, frame buffer, CPU, and Ethernet interface, while the 
DECSystem-20 or VAX has 8M bytes and incredibly fast system 
performance (albeit shared between 20 users).

We are also considering both PSL and T since they already have 68000
compilers.  I don't know how this discussion got on Info-Graphics.

        -- Bill