Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site ssc-vax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!gummo!whuxlb!floyd!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!sts From: sts@ssc-vax.UUCP (Stanley T Shebs) Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: So the language analysis problem has been solved?!? Message-ID: <466@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 24-Aug-83 15:47:11 EDT Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.466 Posted: Wed Aug 24 15:47:11 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 26-Aug-83 04:36:59 EDT References: <4442@sri-arpa.UUCP> Organization: Boeing Aerospace, Seattle Lines: 37 Heh-heh. Thought that'd raise a few hackles (my boss didn't approve of the article; oh well. I tend to be a bit fiery around the edges). The claim is that we have "basically" solved the problem. Actually, we're not the only ones - the APE-II parser by Pazzani and others from the Schank school have also done the same thing. Our parser can handle arbitrarily ambiguous sentences, generating *all* the possible meanings, limited only by the size of its knowledge base. We have the capability to do any sort of idiom, and mix any number of natural languages. Our problems are really concerned with the acquisition of linguistic knowledge, either by having nonspecialists put it in by hand (*everyone* is an expert on the native language) or by having the machine acquire it automatically. We can mail out some details if anyone is interested. One advantage we had is starting from ground zero, so we had very few preconceptions about how language analysis ought to be done, and scanned the literature. It became apparent that since we were required to handle free-form input, any kind of grammar would eventually become less than useful and possibly a hindrance to analysis. Mr. Pereira admits as much when he says that grammars only reflect *some* aspects of language. Well, that's not good enough. Us folks in applied research can't always afford the luxury of theorizing about the most elegant methods. We need something that models human cognition closely enough to make sense to knowledge engineers and to users. So I'm sort of in the Schank camp (folks at SRI hate 'em) although I try to keep my thinking as independent as possible (hard when each camp is calling the other ones charlatans; I'll post something on that pernicious behavior eventually). Parallel production systems I'll save for another article... stan the leprechaun hacker ssc-vax!sts (soon utah-cs) ps I *did* read an article of Mr. Pereira's - couldn't understand the point. Sorry. (perhaps he would be so good as to explain?)