Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site uw-june Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!uw-june!emma From: emma@uw-june (Joe Pfeiffer) Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Prejudice and Frames, Turing Test Message-ID: <549@uw-june> Date: Thu, 25-Aug-83 13:47:38 EDT Article-I.D.: uw-june.549 Posted: Thu Aug 25 13:47:38 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Aug-83 15:35:19 EDT References: <4474@sri-arpa.UUCP> <403@pyuxll.UUCP> Organization: U. Washington, Computer Sci Lines: 25 I don't think I can accept some of the comments being bandied about regarding prejudice. Prejudice, as I understand the term, refers to prejudging a person on the basis of class, rather than judging that person as an individual. Class here is used in a wider sense than economic. Examples would be "colored folk got rythm" or "all them white saxophonists sound the same to me"-- this latter being a quote from Miles Davis, by the way. It is immediately apparent that prejudice is a natural result of making generalizations and extrapolating from experience. This is a natural, and I would suspect inevitable, result of a knowledge acquisition process which generalizes. Bigotry, meanwhile, refers to inflexible prejudice. Miles has used a lot of white saxophonists, as he recognizes that some don't all sound the same. Were he bigoted, rather than prejudiced, he would refuse to acknowledge that. The problem lies in determining at what point an apparent counterexample should modify a conception. Do we decide that gravity doesn't work for airplanes, or that gravity always works but something else is going on? Do we decide that a particular white sax man is good, or that he's got a John Coltrane tape in his pocket? In general, I would say that some people out there are getting awfully self-righteous regarding a phenomenon that ought to be studied as a result of our knowledge acquisition process rather than used to classify people as sub-human. -Joe P.