Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site ssc-vax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!microsoft!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!tjj From: tjj@ssc-vax.UUCP (T J Jardine) Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Language Translation Message-ID: <475@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Aug-83 15:47:19 EDT Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.475 Posted: Thu Aug 25 15:47:19 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Aug-83 18:47:23 EDT References: <4452@sri-arpa.UUCP> Organization: Boeing Aerospace, Seattle Lines: 31 OK, you turned your flame-thrower on, now prepare for mine! You want to know why things don't get published -- take a look at your address and then at mine. You live (I hope I'm not talking to an AI Project) in the academic community; believe it or not there are those of us who work in something euphemistically refered to as industry where the rule is not publish or perish, the rule is keep quiet and you are less likely to get your backside seared! Come on out into the 'real' world where technical papers must be reviewed by managers that don't know how to spell AI, let alone understand what language translation is all about. Then watch as two of them get into a moebius argument, one saying that there is nothing classified in the paper but there is proprietary information, while the other says no proprietary but it definitely is classified! All the while this is going on the deadline for submission to three conferences passes by like the perennial river flowing to the sea. I know reviews are not unheard of in academia, and that professors do sometimes get into arguments, but I've no doubt that they would be more generally favorable to publication than managers who are worried about the next stockholder's meeting. It ain't all that bad, but at least you seem to need a wider perspective. Perhaps the results haven't been published; perhaps the claims appear somewhat tentative; but the testing has been critical, and the only thing left is primarily a matter of drudgery, not innovative research. I am convinced that we may certainly find a new and challenging problem awaiting us once that has been done, but at least we are not sitting around for years on end trying to paste together a grammar for a context sensitive language!! Ted Jardine TJ (with Amazing Grace) The Piper ssc-vax!tjj