Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cdi.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!reed!cdi!caf From: caf@cdi.UUCP (caf) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: Dynamic Range Estimate Message-ID: <242@cdi.UUCP> Date: Fri, 12-Aug-83 15:41:11 EDT Article-I.D.: cdi.242 Posted: Fri Aug 12 15:41:11 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Aug-83 21:35:07 EDT References: <1074@dvamc.UUCP>, <286@hound.UUCP> Organization: Computer Development Inc, Beaverton OR Lines: 28 Subtracting the ambient noise level of the listening room from the peak sound level of a stereo system does not yield a valid figure for the perceptual dynamic range of the setup for at least two reasons: 1. The listener localizes sounds with binaural hearing. The whirr of an icebox in the next room can be distinguished from the program material/hiss in much the same way that most people can pick out conversations in a cocktail party. 2. In addition to (1.), the ambient noise in the listening environment is often in a different frequency rage from the music and/or hiss emanating from the loudspeakers. The last time I autitioned CD's was in a showroom with a rather noisy air conditioner and indeed I couldn't hear any hiss on the CD's with risking louspeaker armageddon. However, at home, when things are quiet (with the icebox off, etc.) I can sometimes hear the slight noise background from digitally mastered DBX records cut in/out between selections. When playing the best digitally encoded DBX records, the only "noise" I really notice (aside from occaisional ticks and pops) is that made by the conductor and orchestra in the process of playing the piece. This makes the recording enjoyable and realistic to me. As far as CD's for myself, I plan to hold off (and susbist on my collection of DBX records) untill Pioneer introduces its combo LV/CD player. -- Chuck Forsberg Computer Development Inc Portland OR cdi!caf (503)-646-1599