Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site tekig1.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!tekid!tekig1!gregr From: gregr@tekig1.UUCP Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: Warning about dbx Message-ID: <1295@tekig1.UUCP> Date: Wed, 7-Sep-83 00:25:51 EDT Article-I.D.: tekig1.1295 Posted: Wed Sep 7 00:25:51 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Sep-83 04:50:13 EDT References: <1797@allegra.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 28 Your problem with DBX is characteristic of this type of noise reduction unit. It is caused by the fact the DBX uses a much higher expansion/compression ratio than Dolby, and is not frequency or signal level selective. This method used bydBx produces a much better signal-to-noise ratio improvement than Dolby, but at the cost of producing "breathing". At low signal levels (or between record cuts) the dBx system compansion (expansion/compression) reduces tape hiss, or in the case of encoded records, background noise almost entirely. However, should loud solo passages occur which have narrow frequency content the system opens up and reveals the background noise as well. If sufficient frequency content in the midrange-high end is included in the passage it masks the noise level, otherwise you hear the noise which appears to be modulated be the varying signal level. This is the "breathing" you hear. In many types of music, particularly popular music, the masking effect caused by a constantly wide frequency spectrum can give very acceptable results. In music that features a lot of solo instruments the breathing can often be unacceptable. Unfortunately Dolby B doesn't offer a complete solution either. This system depends on accurate tracking of absolute signal levels (the reference level has to be set) and precise matching of circuit parameters between the encoding and decoding circuits. And IF everything works perfectly the amount of noise reduction is still insufficient to reduce tape hiss completely as you have seen. My subjective opinion is that the system you will be happiest with depends on both the type of music you listen to, and on your sensitivity to the side effects of both systems. There is no free lunch! CD disk players cost about $800-$1000 and PCM digital tape encoders cost about $1500-$2500. These are the only acceptable solutions for me. Greg (still pushing CD's)