Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site ssc-vax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!ditzel From: ditzel@ssc-vax.UUCP (Charles L Ditzel) Newsgroups: net.chess Subject: Re: more kasparov-korchnoi Message-ID: <412@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Sun, 14-Aug-83 19:22:20 EDT Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.412 Posted: Sun Aug 14 19:22:20 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Aug-83 12:20:23 EDT Organization: Boeing Aerospace, Seattle Lines: 63 Ahh, it is not all that one sided. There is little doubt that if Gary Kasparov played in Pasadena he would not be facing an admiring audience. Though rumors abound about Kasparov's immenent defection one wonder's as to the truth. I remember back in 1972 after Fischer's victory over Boris Spasski everyone claimed that Spasski was about to defect. The stories went on for years. Spasski did not defect though he took up residence in France after he married a French woman. Last I heard Spasski (as of informant 35 June 30 '82) Spasski not only has not defected but continues to play chess for the Soviets. So much for long lived rumors. Obviously love was confused for politics in this case. Not to bring 1972 back into the picture. But....the Soviets have not been the only ones to inject politics and crude behavior into chess. I won't go on and on and on about Bobby Fischer's actions in 1972 during his match with Spasski (or Petrosian for that matter) or his subsequent default of his title in 1976 to Anatoly Karpov. Remember that's how Karpov became world champion - Fischer refused to play him. It's true that the soviets regularly do unseemly things in the chess world but they are not the only ones. Another couple of points - Pasadena was definitely Korchnoi's preference. No were else would he have such an impartial atmosphere. Kasparov if indeed he wanted to defect need not have been in the United States to do so... Korchnoi defected while playing in a tournament in Holland. Pasadena must have been the Soviets last choice for a number of obvious reasons. If any of Fischer's semi-final matches (against Soviet players) had been scheduled for say Moscow you know he wouldn't have stood for it. It is a pity that a certain level-headedness had not prevailed early in the site selection. In all of Fischer's negotiations, both he and the Soviet's had definite ideas in mind about where they wanted to play and eventually some compromise was arrived at. The Soviet players for example hated the notion of playing in Yugoslavia(!) because Yugoslav chess fans were wild over Fischer. Whats more Fischer reportedly did not originally want to play in Iceland because he perceived it as a primitive place. Eventually when someone at the last moment offered a larger prize to play in Iceland Fischer played in Iceland. Like I said I don't think Pasadena is neutral territory in a match between a Soviet defector and Soviet representative. Now maybe Ken from Toronto has a different picture of the world. It has been mentioned that Rotterdam was also a choice....hmmm....somehow I view Rotterdam as slightly more neutral in a "cold war" sense then I do Pasadena. My own *opinion* (which is all of the above also) is that someone really screwed up the initial site selection and when the Soviets kept telling them that they were not going to send representatives to play ...the people that originally screwed up either didn't believe them or did not care. At this point there really is a major schism in world chess (which is really too bad). Whether people like it or not a certain amount of politics enters the sports and chess arenas.This is a reality. Things are real mess now because of an absence of compromise. Clearly the Soviets do not have Victor Korchnoi's best interests at heart and vice versa. Neither player should be forced to play in areas that are clearly hostile to them. The question now is how to resolve all the thorny issues. Korchnoi logically should be awarded a forfeit win. Practically, this will be very bad for international chess. This unfortunate delimma could have all been avoided fairly easily if the FIDE bureaucracy had chosen a slightly more tactful road. It is easy to make chauvinistic accusations about what dirty players the Soviets are but I think it would be better to make them at more appropriate moments (and there are plenty of them).