Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utcsstat.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsrgv!utcsstat!laura From: laura@utcsstat.UUCP Newsgroups: net.cog-eng Subject: Re: Menus bad? Message-ID: <883@utcsstat.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Aug-83 11:59:47 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsstat.883 Posted: Tue Aug 16 11:59:47 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Aug-83 22:13:16 EDT References: <1969@utcsrgv.UUCP> Organization: U. of Toronto, Canada Lines: 29 sorry, folks, i expressed myself badly. i did not want to attack Human Factors Engineers as a class (though there are certain ones whose ideas do not seem to be based on the study of the same sort of people that I know). The problem I am seeing is with dillitant human factors engineers. Having learned a little about the subject, they come down and tell me that they want software to do this, that, and the other thing, and, by the way, it has to be a menu system. I take the attitude that, since it is their mistake, i can always give them what they asked for, as long as there are hooks for changing it to what i feel is more appropriate. i have given up arguing with them -- my success rate is too low. On the other hand, the number of people who have wanted changes after living with their messes for a few months is not small. Sometimes i feel that i have shirked my responsibility to all those users outside when I agree to produce something which uses a user- interface i feel is inappropriate. other times i feel that i have behaved in a morally objectionable way in trying to force my opinions on others. If people did not form such hard-and-fast opinions and would be a little more flexible, i would not have this problem. i would still have the ever-present problem of "you may be making a big mistake here Laura", but at least the problems could be expressed in terms of ignorance, rather than someone's well-believed but nevertheless wrong view of something. Laura Creighton utzoo!utcsstat!laura