Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site whuxlb.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!whuxlb!eric From: eric@whuxlb.UUCP Newsgroups: net.cog-eng Subject: Re: Re: thousands of input flags in one - (nf) Message-ID: <1306@whuxlb.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Aug-83 20:12:16 EDT Article-I.D.: whuxlb.1306 Posted: Tue Aug 30 20:12:16 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 31-Aug-83 22:51:26 EDT Sender: eric@whuxlb.UUCP Organization: Bell Labs, Whippany Lines: 27 #R:sdcsvax:-370800:whuxlb:33800002:000:1035 whuxlb!eric Aug 30 20:12:00 1983 adding input flags to allow the user to get more verbose output is NOT a valid solution to the interactive problem of UNIX...because the more flags there are, the more intimidating it is for the novice (and indeed the expert) user. . . . . . Perhaps if the routines defaulted to a interactive "help" interface, then the flags could turn it off to a varying degree... PLEASE.... NO.... NO HELP FILES.... I like Unix to be terse. I LIKE having to ask for verboseness. EVERY (general user) type program I write usually has flags for verboseness. Like it or not, Unix was written BY and FOR programmers. If you must, write your own little commands to be verbose, but when I type ls in an empty directory, by golly I DON'T WANT IT TO SAY ***ANYTHING***. Terseness is a virtue, especially on slow (i'm talking 300 baud) terminals.. Cogito ergo computo, et ergo sum. Eric Holtman (harpo!whuxlb!eric) WH 1c-352d, x4890