Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site nsc.uucp Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!menlo70!nsc!chongo From: chongo@nsc.uucp (Curt Noll) Newsgroups: net.crypt Subject: Re: Cracking public - key encryption schemes such as RSA Message-ID: <363@nsc.uucp> Date: Fri, 26-Aug-83 21:39:39 EDT Article-I.D.: nsc.363 Posted: Fri Aug 26 21:39:39 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 29-Aug-83 01:16:06 EDT Organization: National Semiconductor, Sunnyvale Lines: 23 from my understanding on this topic, the RSA system has not been cracked, nor has a `proof' shown it to have a given level of security. the knapsack system as been smashed to bits by methods using repeating fractions. (an APPLE cracked the knapsack cypher challenge in a matter of hours to give you an idea of how bad it was cracked) i have used the RSA system quite a bit. while i dont have my notes in front of me, i do seem to recall alot of misinformation, and disinformation (some by our government) given about RSA. i offer some thoughts: 1) every non-trivial RSA system will generate a cyphertext which is the same as the plaintext. some systems using primes can result in every cyphertext being the same as every message! (not a very good security eh?) one can select a subset (a sizeable fraction of the primes) which will generate only 9 `non-mixed' cypertexts. 2) in general, not much is known about how well mixed the cyphertexts are from an RSA system. #1 deals with totally non-mixed items, but where the encode function is equivalent to a trivial function. chongo /\../\