Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1a 7/7/83; site rlgvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!rlgvax!oz From: oz@rlgvax.UUCP (THE GREAT AND POWERFUL OZ) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: reply to ** FRODO ** from laura Message-ID: <1010@rlgvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Aug-83 20:38:04 EDT Article-I.D.: rlgvax.1010 Posted: Tue Aug 16 20:38:04 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 17-Aug-83 05:33:50 EDT References: <854@utcsstat.UUCP>, <358@hou5f.UUCP>, <880@utcsstat.UUCP> Organization: CCI, Capitol Region Lines: 27 I was not going to enter this debate as I feel that it is the type of "heated" debate that no one wins, or where no one listens to the other side, but Laura, your last reply was to much. Comparing a dislike of Blacks, computers, et al, is NOT the same as a dislike of cigarette smoke. When I am around a computer, I usually don't have to cough to clear my lungs. I have yet to be around a person, white, black, or purple, that irritated my eyes by their very presence, my ears YES, my eyes, no. Now for the important part, I DO OBJECT TO THINGS THAT CAUSE ME PHYSICAL DISCOMFORT. If you want to smoke on the street, in YOUR car, in YOUR house, fine! If you want to smoke and make ME uncomfortable, possibly ruin a meal with your smoke, possibly ruin my suit with your ashes (it DID happen to me), then I do object. After all, if you wait until you finish your meal (or whatever) and THEN light up outside, you are only DELAYING the (I assume) gratification that you get from smoking. If you light up inside, you are causing me PHYSICAL discomfort. I do not propose to take away your right to smoke. I do propose that it is UNREASONABLE for you to have the "right" to cause me PHYSICAL dis- comfort. NOTICE I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT STUDIES OF PASSIVE SMOKE CAUSING CANCER OR WHATEVER, I am talking about the annoyance of smoke itself. Other social norms that are bothersom or harmful to people are outlawed. You cannot exercise your right to hit me, without expecting to be arrested. You cannot walk your dog in NYC and have him evacuate in the street where I can walk in it, without a fine, and I don't consider it to be unreasonable to ask you to delay your smoking pleasure, so I can breath and see (two things I have gotten used to over these many years). OZ seismo!rlgvax!oz