Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!rh From: rh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Randy Haskins) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: "Natural rights" and smoking Message-ID: <619@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Wed, 17-Aug-83 10:14:53 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.619 Posted: Wed Aug 17 10:14:53 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 17-Aug-83 19:35:34 EDT References: <425@ariel.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 37 Tom Skrobala (ariel!tas) brings up some valid points, however, there are some I feel should be refuted. he writes: > One thing that strikes me is that people are *born* > with a distaste for smoke (I think), whereas smoking is > a *learned* (and chosen) pleasure. In a clash, I would > tend to favor the native desires of the nonsmoker. Of > course, this isn't completely clean: one could perhaps > argue that once a body has been smoking for ten years, > the craving for tobacco is as natural for him as is the > craving for food in a normal person. Is one > responsible now for a decision he made ten years ago? > I don't know absolutely, but society seems to say yes. > Contracts are considered binding, after all. So it may > be argued that the smoker took upon himself the > responsibility of dealing with the occasional > discomfort caused by smoking restrictions when he > decided to smoke. A craving for tobacco is NOT as natural as a craving for food!! If you don't eat, you die. If you don't smoke, you live (longer). Throughout evolutionary (bug-off if you don't like that word) history, man and other animals have craved food. It's what kept them alive. Craving food has a tradition millions of years old. I'm uneasy about the prospect of too many laws also. How about a that says you can murder someone and use as a defense the fact that you repeatedly asked him to stop smoking and warned him that you were going to kill him if he didn't ? I think a law like that would tend to make smokers more courteous. ( 1/2 * :-) ) -- Randwulf (Randy Haskins); Path= genrad!mit-eddie!rh or... rh@mit-ee (via mit-mc)