Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site houxl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!gummo!whuxlb!pyuxll!eisx!npoiv!npois!hogpc!houxm!houxl!braddy From: braddy@houxl.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: The Draft Message-ID: <113@houxl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Aug-83 12:08:56 EDT Article-I.D.: houxl.113 Posted: Tue Aug 23 12:08:56 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 24-Aug-83 09:30:33 EDT References: <946@ittvax.UUCP>, <719@hou5e.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 19 I agree with some points in hou5e!mat's long and hot flame but there is a hopeless premise behind it that must be addressed. *> Self defense is one thing: I don't have any wives or daughters and I'd still shoot you if I you try to plunder my home and kill me. *> The aggression that must precede self defense is entirely another: IF we would *all* just do it, we (humans) could abolish war. There is no intrinsic reason why we must have wars. ==> I read hou5e!mat's flame to assume that because we now have war we will always have war. Necessarily and with out question. Forever. That's scary. We took a long time to reach this state of affairs on this planet and it's probably too simple to announce "let's abolish war". Until ...mat and such ilk reject the premise that we COULD live without war, the most clever of solutions will only be symptomatic and the problem will remain. "Argue for your limitations and sure enough, you get to keep them." -- from "Illusions", but I forget the author. David..