Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site nsc.uucp Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!menlo70!nsc!chongo From: chongo@nsc.uucp (Curt Noll) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: The Draft Message-ID: <375@nsc.uucp> Date: Fri, 2-Sep-83 13:10:39 EDT Article-I.D.: nsc.375 Posted: Fri Sep 2 13:10:39 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Sep-83 17:32:59 EDT References: <946@ittvax.UUCP> hou5e.719, <403@houxn.UUCP> Organization: National Semiconductor, Sunnyvale Lines: 32 and now a flame about US propaganda: >"The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots." << FLAME ON >> i think a more realistic wording of the above propaganda line would be: "The money tree demands blood sacrifices of nationalists." << FLAME OFF >> >Freedom isn't a right, it's a privilege. If you aren't willing to >fight for it, don't expect to keep it. here i go again: << FLAME ON >> freedom isn't a right that is granted by some government, freedom is endowed to us when we begin to exist. some of the founders of this very nation knew the danger that government posed to people, namely: "...to pressure to such a degree that in their (the peoples ) failure to understand freedom they wrongly select to give into the pressure." freedom does not come to us as a gift from the govermnent, freedom is what we select to allow ourselves. YOU YOURSELF decide: to i want to go ahead with what i believe is right, even in spite of the external repression? freedom is not political rights, or economic advantages, it is the ideal within you that strives for life, ability to act without undo restriction, the ability to progress towards a better life. i would not be as bad if certain people came out and said that they are willing to kill others to keep their standard of living rather than to try and mask it with high ideas of freedom and peace.