Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!tekecs!shark!patc From: patc@shark.UUCP (Pat Conley) Newsgroups: net.invest Subject: Re: CBOE 100 Options Message-ID: <1410@shark.UUCP> Date: Mon, 8-Aug-83 13:14:49 EDT Article-I.D.: shark.1410 Posted: Mon Aug 8 13:14:49 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 9-Aug-83 06:22:47 EDT References: uofm-cv.228 Lines: 34 CBOE options are out and out gambling I think your analyst friend is just out to churn potential accounts. As far as buying puts on any of the indicators i.e. SP100 or CBOE 100 and any other such thing especially with puts the first thing to remember is the risk/reward relationship which is ( 100% risk to lose all money / fixed gain if market collapses ). Since the market is unlikely to collapse and you are very likely to lose your money this is a very pad investment. Now for those super speculators heed this message if you want to make a little money in puts you should have bought last week... this is because options have two values of concern intrinsic time value and speculative (greed) premium. The speculative premium on everything shot out of sight last week when the high interest rates were first announced which in turn shot up the speculative premium i.e. if you bought puts now you would be paying to much. ( Only buy puts when there cheap!!!!!!!) The intrinsic value appears when the CBOE100 or whatever actually starts decaying, but heed this; this is where the suckers get in. For more information on the option valuation see the Black and Shoals model work ( one few true post academic usages of integral calculus ) this is useful for determining if your getting into options to late. Since the current correction will soon go back as the current bullish predictions are out for clear to december getting in to calls on some very volatile stocks might be a good bet now that there cheap. For calls the risk /reward is ( 100% risk / unlimited gain ) i.e. theres no limit how high a stock can go up. As for the broker who says to buy CBOE100 options the commisions are very nice ( a guy could get rich in that business, perhaps much more than any investor might) buy your friend a copy of the famous book "where are the customers yachts",1942 an excellent book on the way brokers work. I play options the tools I like best are options charts by Daily graphs and on line NYSE quotation and order entry by C.d anderson/Trade master. For people interested in options they should read Clasings book "DJ options guide" and when you get really sharp pick up Macmillans "Options as a strategic investment". These are both somewhat technical books especially the latter.