Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site ssc-vax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!sts From: sts@ssc-vax.UUCP (Stanley T Shebs) Newsgroups: net.legal Subject: The usefulness of lawyers Message-ID: <463@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Aug-83 17:55:52 EDT Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.463 Posted: Tue Aug 23 17:55:52 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 26-Aug-83 00:50:33 EDT Organization: Boeing Aerospace, Seattle Lines: 25 The people arguing in favor of lawyers have a point. The law is complex, and there's no lack of people trying to break it in various subtle ways. Let's beat the programming analogy to death. There's at least two ways to improve an existing program; modify it or rewrite it. We all know what happens to programs that have been modified too many times - they begin to resemble the IRS tax code, and that's not just my analogy. Rewriting is often the trick to improving a computer program. So how many laws get rewritten to make them simpler and clearer? So far as I know, the answer is *none*. They just grow and grow, legal hack upon amendment, case upon appeal. Now why is that? I believe that there is a difference of personal ethic between lawyers and engineers (of course, this is an overgeneralization). Engineers are trained to think in terms of improving efficiency, making things work better, etc etc. Presumably lawyers are supposed to be trained to think in terms of justice, but that's harder to evaluate than 40% efficiency increase, so we get an adversary system where the most important thing is to *win* against someone else. Winning your case is the determinant of justice. Imagine a situation in which an engineer's 40% speed increase caused some other engineer's project to slow down by the same amount! It's hard to see how justice can really be served in such a system, but I don't have a replacement - yet. stan the leprechaun hack ssc-vax!sts (soon utah-cs)