Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utcsrgv.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsrgv!perelgut From: perelgut@utcsrgv.UUCP (Stephen Perelgut) Newsgroups: net.legal Subject: Twisted Legal System Message-ID: <2162@utcsrgv.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Sep-83 15:57:39 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsrgv.2162 Posted: Thu Sep 1 15:57:39 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 1-Sep-83 16:28:52 EDT Organization: CSRG, University of Toronto Lines: 33 I can only stomache so much. "... the problem is that the only EFFECTIVE way of preventing the police from violating people's rights is to make the violation cause all the police's work to be in vain." This is a direct quote from the only real source of legal opinions on the net. Now I know that he is speaking only for himself but this is outrageous. Making the work be in vain sure as hell doesn't punish the police. It punishes the public! When the murderer is released on a technicality and kills again, it probably isn't the cop who made the mistake. When the rapist hits again, it sure as hell isn't the cop. When the drug pusher gives a kid an overdose or bad deal, it isn't the cop that takes the stuff! Come on, the only EFFECTIVE way of preventing police violations of civil rights is to punish a cop who does violate the criminal's rights. But that shouldn't absolve the criminal!!!!! This is almost as bad as the related net stories about the 2-year work-term sentence for murder, or the $75K fine for protecting life-and-limb from a robber. Believe me, if I was attacked I would fight back to kill or maim with no thought to the attacker's rights. He suspended those when he chose to violate my own rights! That isn't the law, but that too is reality! P.S. Dave, I see your arguement, but I don't agree with your conclusions and I sorta think this is worth net-wide discussion. -- Stephen Perelgut Computer Systems Research Group University of Toronto Usenet: {linus, ihnp4, allegra, decvax, floyd}!utcsrgv!perelgut ARPA: utcsrgv!perelgut@UW-BEAVER