Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utcsstat.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsstat!laura From: laura@utcsstat.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.math,net.misc,net.rec.bridge Subject: Re: simple (?) statistics problem solved Message-ID: <908@utcsstat.UUCP> Date: Fri, 19-Aug-83 10:08:43 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsstat.908 Posted: Fri Aug 19 10:08:43 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 19-Aug-83 10:40:24 EDT References: <1814@rabbit.UUCP>, <903@utcsstat.UUCP> Organization: U. of Toronto, Canada Lines: 65 I am getting answers to why I was wrong, but I am still confused. I think I can express my confusion better now, though. (I still don't know what is going on, but I misunderstand *much* better today). If you had phrased the question "What is the chance that you picked the drawer with the 2 gold coins", I would have come up with the official answer to the problem. your start condition is a room with three cabinets in it. But you *didn't*. The start condition is with one drawer open. You get to do a rescan of the sample set, and, noticing that one cabinet has been eliminated from consideration, you *eliminate it*. You are only left with 2 cabinets, and they are (obviously) equal in proportion to each other with regard to the property (having another gold coin) that you are testing. The official answer says that I do not get to do that rescan. I do not understand why not. I also think the same way when I am playing bridge. You count up your sure tricks, and then consider how to make the best out of the rest of the deal. (you had better make sure you have leaders to both the board and your hand as well). If you do not know the distribution of cards in your oponents hands from the bidding, you may have the situation that you mentioned. In some cases, you have no choice. Either the finesse fails, and your contract goes down, or it doesn't and you are safe. Lay on MacDuff... (actually, you may have to think about when to time your finesse but if it is the only way that your contract is going to make it, then it is the only way that your contract is going to make it.) Frequently, though, there is another way out. You hold onto your high card. You then apply a squeeze. For people not aquainted with the sqeeeze, the idea is for you to run all your cards out, usually fairly rapidly, to increase the intimidation factor, and sqeeze your oponent, who does not know what card you have, into dropping a card that would have won him a trick. For instance, suppose you are south, and are holding the Ace of hearts, and the 10 of hearts, and the Ace of spades. Your west opponent has the King and Queen of hearts, and the Ace of clubs. Your East opponent has the King of clubs and some losers. If you run the squeze on West, he is going to have to decide between keeping the Queen of Hearts and keeping the Ace of Clubs. Remember, he has the possibility that you have the King of Clubs and the Ace of Hearts, and that his partner has the 10 of Hearts to consider. I would do this rather than trying to finesse east, unless from the bidding it was obvious that the missing King of Hearts was in East's hand. You understand the squeeze? The reason that I use it is that I get to see a lot of the cards fall and can do a lot of rescanning. It also works more often for me than trying a finesse. You can see your odds get better and better.... In fact, it is most important to keep track of the distribution of cards as they fall. You must assume that unless your opponent West is a fool he is doing the same. If he finds out that you are void in clubs early on, the show is over, for he will know where the 10 lies. Okay. I rescan constantly when I play bridge. you say that I cannot rescan when I open cabinets. Why? Why is your puzzle applicable to bridge? Always interested in finding new ways to win more often at bridge, Laura Creighton utzoo!utcsstat!laura