Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!rochester!ritcv!mjl From: mjl@ritcv.UUCP (Mike Lutz) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: RE:DEC Marketing Strategy Message-ID: <461@ritcv.UUCP> Date: Sat, 6-Aug-83 16:57:36 EDT Article-I.D.: ritcv.461 Posted: Sat Aug 6 16:57:36 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 7-Aug-83 07:40:54 EDT References: ncsu.2259 Lines: 26 There a couple of problems with Gary Fostel's comparison of the software (un)developed for the DEC PRO 350 and previous DEC systems. Gary says DEC makes machines and lets the software come after, some done internally, but mainly from the outside. (If I've misstated this, I'm sorry.) However, this is apparently NOT the strategy for the PRO, because DEC won't let anyone see what's under the hood. It is nigh on impossible to get any decent hardware documentation that, say, a systems programmer would need to port UN*X to the PRO. You're pretty well stuck with P/OS, and if you want to do any REAL development for the PC, you'd better have a VAX with DEC's Toolkit to back you up. What is more, the new proprietary bus makes the development of a second source peripherals market impossible. Contrast this to IBM, whose PC inter- nals are openly documented, and where a flourishing market has already developed for add-on products. We've had lo-o-ong discussions with DEC on this topic, and, quite frankly, I was not satisfied with the outcome. The second problem is one of market. Whereas gurus, hackers, and other "pro- fessionals" can live with a stripped down machine, the buyer's in the PC mark- etplace see the computer as a tool. They are as unhappy with the ineffective- ness or inappropriateness of this tool as they'd be with a car that had no en- gine. Even BIG BLUE had to adopt markedly different strategies when it en- tered the personal computer market. Given the relative market penetrations of the IBM PC and the DEC PRO/350 within one year of introduction, it's obvious to me which organization did its homework. Mike Lutz {allegra,seismo}!rochester!ritcv!mjl