Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sdchema.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!sdcsvax!sdchema!donn From: donn@sdchema.UUCP (Donn Seeley) Newsgroups: net.misc,net.nlang Subject: Re: Pronunciation of 'Honda' Message-ID: <851@sdchema.UUCP> Date: Sun, 4-Sep-83 22:26:54 EDT Article-I.D.: sdchema.851 Posted: Sun Sep 4 22:26:54 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 5-Sep-83 22:37:54 EDT References: <357@mhuxj.UUCP> Organization: UC San Diego Chemistry Dept. NIH Research Resource Lines: 32 Joe Presley is certainly right about the pronunciation of 'Honda' (as hone-dah) but anyone who wants to remedy this mistake has a lot of work to do; even the (American) spokesmen and advertisers for the company pronounce it the other way (as hahn-duh). I had a programmer friend once whose last name was 'Handa' (she was an American of Japanese extraction). Of course her name was pronounced almost exactly like the name of the car maker usually is in English. She owned (naturally) a Honda automobile and had the lettering on the back adjusted so that the 'o' was turned into an 'a'... My current gripe is about the pronunciation of the name of the fish, 'piranha'. There was a movie called 'Piranha' on the other night and all the announcers pronounced the word 'purranuh'. My knowledge of Portuguese ain't too great but I'm pretty sure that the word is pronounced 'peerahnyah'... (Such a pity that ASCII doesn't have enough useful characters to do a decent phonetic transcription.) Many of the funny pronunciations Americans emit when they read foreign words are a result of the infamous 'Great English Vowel Shift', which haunts us to this day. At some point in the past speakers of English would have pronounced 'Honda' the way it's supposed to be pronounced, but the vowel shift screwed us all up. Since our vowels changed but our spelling stayed the same, we 'overgeneralize' and expect that all foreign languages have also had their vowels mucked up... Of course, who is saying or spelling it wrong depends on your point of view. (The vowel shift is also partially responsible for such horrors as pronounce/pronunciation...) Chairman of Americans for the Repeal of the Vowel Shift, Donn Seeley UCSD Chemistry Dept. RRCF ucbvax!sdcsvax!sdchema!donn