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From: rlr@pyuxn.UUCP
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Subject: Re: New Order and Joy Division, contd
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Date: Sun, 14-Aug-83 12:45:33 EDT
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Posted: Sun Aug 14 12:45:33 1983
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Soooooo, you think Joy Division was depressing, eh?   Well, they've turned
into a bunch of wimpy song-singers ("Oh, you've got blue eyes, oh, you've got
grey eyes, oh, you've got red eyes, oh, you've got black eyes, etc.") and
electropopsters with rhythm machines ("Blue Monday").  They're just a bunch
of babies, if you ask me.  For a REAL depressing band, check out the Cure,
with their "everybody everywhere is always dead" lyrics, and music that's
even jollier than the lyrics!!!  Or check out the rest of Martin Hannett's
progeny on Factory "Put-as-little-information-on-the-cover-as-possible"
Records.  Stockholm Monsters.  Section 25.  The Partridge Family (now, THAT'S
depressing!!---bet you didn't know he produced THEM!).  Molly Hatchet.
Van Halen.  I'm talking depressing here!!!!  What about Pere Ubu???  Peter
Laughner died, but nobody started singing about eye colors in that band!!
And if you sang like David Thomas, you'd probably cause someone to die as well.

Check out the new Partridge Family album (FACTUS 666) called "Still Still",
a nine-record set with rare unrecorded versions of "I Think I Love You,
So I Guess I'll Hang Myself" and other Hannett-produced classics.  Watch for
the videos on MTV (you'll recognize them because the screen will be entirely
black).

Seriously, I really love Joy Division and New Order, both.  I got on this
kick of telling Ian Curtis jokes when I was in a record store in New York and
saw a picture (that I thought was) of Ian Curtis.  The salesman corrected me,
and told me that I might have thought that that was the case because it was
"hanging there".  When we first went to see New Order, we waited outside in
the rain for hours, and joked about the idea that they couldn't start because
another member of the band had hanged himself.

					No respect for the dead
						(grateful or otherwise)
					Rich Rosen   pyuxn!rlr