Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site alice.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!eagle!alice!alb From: alb@alice.UUCP Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: net.music.jazz and subgroups in general Message-ID: <2130@alice.UUCP> Date: Sun, 21-Aug-83 10:58:36 EDT Article-I.D.: alice.2130 Posted: Sun Aug 21 10:58:36 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 21-Aug-83 16:00:23 EDT References: <1994@umcp-cs.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs, Murray Hill Lines: 24 I wish people would stop taking the attitude that newsgroups don't produce any more overhead. They do! The more newsgroups you have, the slower the news programs work, because each has to do a linear search of the active file to do its job (granted, the process has been greatly sped up in recent versions.) Also, each newsgroup has its own directory, which means i-node and file space used up (this seems like a small thing, but on machines with small /usr/spool's, it is certainly not to be overlooked.) And there *IS* a limit to the number of groups we can have; this is an indirect limit, as it is linked to the maximum size of the .newsrc file (once you have as many lines in .newsrc as you are allowed, you cannot make any new groups.) We (using alice's active file) now have 238 newsgroups, and the number is growing steadily (I remember a couple years ago when we had only 50 or so groups.) The software currently allows for 512 (the .newsrc limit). In a year or two (considering that the rate of growth is also increasing steadily), we will reach this limit. Then what? If we don't start taking steps NOW to control newsgroup proliferation (what a nastier sound than growth that carries!), we will soon not have any more room left. Then, when a group with a real and true purpose comes along, it won't be able to fit it, because there will be too many net.micro.atari.battlezone and net.tv.mash.hawkeye type groups around.