Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utcsstat.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsrgv!utcsstat!laura From: laura@utcsstat.UUCP Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: A defense of the middle ground Message-ID: <862@utcsstat.UUCP> Date: Sat, 13-Aug-83 06:22:50 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsstat.862 Posted: Sat Aug 13 06:22:50 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Aug-83 07:36:22 EDT References: <433@spanky.UUCP> Organization: U. of Toronto, Canada Lines: 32 Kenneth, you are doing it again. I am referring to: To illustrate my point, Tom, I would like to point out that you yourself advocate a position somewhere between pure altruism and pure selfishness. Now I'm sure that you will disagree with this claim, so permit me to procede slowly. First let me define altruism and selfishness as I use the terms in this article. This is dirty pool. Tom has already gone to considerable trouble to define altruism and selfishness. You do not even have the grace to use new words. You get to define altrusim and selfishness, and then all your proof falls out. This is *NO GOOD*. If you can prove from general principles that your definition of altruism is THE definition of altrusim, you can get away with it. Good Luck, philosophers and theologians have been arguing this for centuries and we still are not very far. Sometimes language is confusing, but that does not give you the freedom to change the definition of the terms that someone else has used and hold them to it, unless you can prove to them that your definition is logically equivalent to their definition. The normal reaction of someone who has had their words twisted in this way is to pack up their marbles and go home, you know -- do you really want to provoke this reaction in every one you argue with? laura creighton utcsstat!laura