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From: larry@grkermit.UUCP (Larry Kolodney)
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Subject: Re: The lack of universal values: a reply to Paul Torek
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Date: Wed, 17-Aug-83 14:21:18 EDT
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"But then what will you say about ascetics who 
deliberately deny themselves pleasure?  Obviously they do not value it."

Ascetics, like hunger strikers, are denying themselves pleasure for
something they value higher than it.  That doesn't mean they don't
value it at all.  The whole point of Asceticism is that you are denying
yourself something which you crave.-- 
Larry Kolodney 
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